RE: {bb} Some features not working

["Kauffman, Tom" <KauffmanT@nibco.com>]

Hmm . . .

I just pulled down the package, un-compressed and de-tarred it and ended
up with a 'bb1.9e-btf.tar' (server) and 'bbc1.9e-btf.tar' (client).

After the following extracts, I end up with /usr/local/bbuser/bb1.9e-btf
and /usr/local/bbuser/bbc1.9e-btf. /usr/local/bbuser is the home
directory for 'bbuser', my bb owner. The server install doc is in
/usr/local/bbuser/bb1.9e-btf/README.INSTALL; the client install doc is
in /usr/local/bbuser/bbc1.9e-btf/README.INSTALL -- at the end.

It sounds like you have BOTH environments using the same BBHOME.

After symlinking -- the server BBHOME is /usr/local/bbuser/bb
(bb1.9e-btf) and the client BBHOME is /usr/local/bbuser/bbc
(bbc1.9e-btf).

My startup process:

su - bbuser
bb/runbb.sh start	(start server)
bbc/runbb.sh start (start client)

HTH -

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-bb@bb4.com [mailto:owner-bb@bb4.com] On Behalf Of Cornell
> Green
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:44 AM
> To: bb@bb4.com
> Subject: Re: {bb} Some features not working
> 
> Hmm.... ggrrrrr.....
> 
> All of the "README" doco refers to the *old* procedure -- even though
> this is version '1.9e', it still references "install/bbclient", which
> clearly no longer exists.
> 
> Does accurate, current documentation *from* the BB crew exist for
> making this "server also as client" thing work? I've been using Big
> Brother since '96, but was away from the field for the past 3 or so
> revs... so this split server/client implementation has me stumped.
> 
> Others have clearly gotten it working -- what am I missing? Which
> directory structure do I start the daemon from -- the server? the
> client? both? I have tried starting the server, then the client, and I
> get a "Big Brother already running" error.
> 
> I have copied the "etc/bb-hosts" file from the server directory tree
> to the client, and started the daemon in the client BBHOME -- only the
> server daemon starts.... I am perfectly willing to accept that I am
> completely stoopid, and realize it's nobody else's problem... but if
> someone has gotten this to work, and has a "Big Brother
> Server-as-Client for Complete Idiots" write-up, I would greatly
> appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks again, brothers (and sisters?) for your patience and guidance.
> 
> peace
> 
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:25:54 -0500, Misty Stanley-Jones
> <misty@borkholder.com> wrote:
> > Yes you have to compile both of them.  I forgot that once too.  :D
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday 26 August 2004 12:16, Cornell Green wrote:
> > > Ummm... they are in separate locations: /opt/bb/bb (server) and
> > > /opt/bb/bbc (client, not the British TV network)....
> > >
> > > Do I have to "bbconfig" and "make" for both client and server
> > > installs? for "bb" and "bbd"... it doesn't actually appear to be
> that
> > > well documented. Where should I be looking for basic dual install
> > > info?
> > >
> > > peace
> > >
> > > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:14:35 -0500, Misty Stanley-Jones
> > >
> > > <misty@borkholder.com> wrote:
> > > > The server and client should ideally live in two different
> directories.
> > > > Each has a runbb.sh that should invoke it.  Maybe you put them
> in the
> > > > same place and overwrote the runbb.sh??  Just a thought.  My
> config
> > > > has /usr/local/bb/bbserver and /usr/local/bb/bbclient and I have
> no
> > > > problems.
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday 26 August 2004 11:03, Cornell Green wrote:
> > > > > Okay.... maybe I'm stoopid or something, but I cannot seem to
> get both
> > > > > the client and server running on the same machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > I untarred, installed the server, and that's up and running
> fine. But
> > > > > attempts to invoke the client tell me that Big Brother is
> already
> > > > > running.... well, of course it is -- the server instance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are these two separate instances running? Are there a way, a
> script or
> > > > > such, to start both of them. And could somebody explain to me
> how you
> > > > > get them both running, together, on the same machine?
> > > > >
> > > > > Who thought it would be better to NOT monitor disk, cpu, etc,
> on your
> > > > > *servers*??? HELP!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:23:28 -0400, Jay Labonte
> > > > >
> > > > > <jlabonte@tandemstaffing.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Thank You everyone for your assistance!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I now have these features working!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Jay
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> Erwin.Furth@postbankmail.nl 7/30/2004 12:51:02 PM >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While reading the exchange of messages on this subject, I
> got the
> > > > > > impression that there was some confusion because Kimberly
> tried to
> > > > > > solve Jay's bb-1.9c problem with a bb-1.9e solution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In bb-1.9c there is one installation that combines server
> and client
> > > > > > tasks. It has no bbdef-server.sh script and if you want to
> use
> > > > > > enable/disable then you have to recompile your binaries, as
> per
> > > > > > Philip
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clark's response:
> > > > > > > Online/offline messages are internal and are not intended
> for use
> > > > > > > in scripts. For 1.9c, enable and disable need the
> ENABLE_DISABLE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > compiler
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > flag added to src/Makefile. Then re-run "make", stop BB,
> move the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > new
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "bbd" binary into place and start BB again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The alternative is to upgrade to bb-1.9e, where things work
> > > > > > differently. In bb-1.9e there are separate server and client
> > > > > > installations (the two types of tasks got distributed over
> these
> > > > > > installations). The server installation has a bbdef-
> server.sh file
> > > > > > with a RUNOPTS definition, as per Kimberly's response below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Erwin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-bb@bb4.com [mailto:owner-bb@bb4.com]On Behalf Of
> Jay
> > > > > > Labonte
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, 30 July, 2004 17:56
> > > > > > To: bb@bb4.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: {bb} Some features not working
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I understand that bbdef-server.sh is supposed to be located
> on the
> > > > > > server, and that is where I am looking,
> > > > > > and there in is the problem. There is no bbdef-server.sh in
> the
> > > > > > $BBHOME/etc/ directory on my server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I ask again. Where can I obtain a copy of this script?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> jperez@ads.ihets.org 7/30/2004 11:04:17 AM >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bbdef-server.sh is a script located on the server
> installation, not
> > > > > > on the client installation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-bb@bb4.com [mailto:owner-bb@bb4.com] On Behalf
> Of Jay
> > > > > > Labonte
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:40 AM
> > > > > > To: bb@bb4.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: {bb} Some features not working
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK! I added the  required flags and I not have a nice new BB
> after
> > > > > > performing the make and make install.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But it still does not work. I should mention again, I do not
> have a
> > > > > > shell script $BBHOME/etc/bbdef-server.sh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where can I obtain a copy of this script?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also as asked, I'm running BB 1.9c on HP-UX 11i
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Jay
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> raf@deainc.com 7/29/2004 8:45:06 PM >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ah yes, 3.9. They're covered in 4.10
> > > > > > http://usg.acomp.usf.edu/bb/help/bb-man.html#4.10
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Specifically for 1.9c, this would be:
> > > > > >         $BBHOME/src/Makefile
> > > > > > Add "-DENABLE_DISABLE" to your CFLAGS= line
> > > > > > "make", stop BB, "make install", start BB
> > > > > > (and make sure BBOUT stays relatively error-free!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> kmckinnis@macrovision.com 7/29/2004 14:38:46 >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enable and disable require you to enable them in
> > > > > > $BBHOME/etc/bbdef-server.sh on the bbd server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Make sure you have this line: RUNOPTS="ENABLE_DISABLE"
> > > > > > If there are any other things on that line, it's fine, but
> do not
> > > > > > separate them with commands, only spaces, as in
> RUNOPTS="EMBEDHTML
> > > > > > ENABLE_DISABLE"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-bb@bb4.com [mailto:owner-bb@bb4.com] On Behalf
> Of Jay
> > > > > > Labonte
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am currently running version 1.9c, and the following
> commands are
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > working:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > disable
> > > > > > enable
> > > > > > offline
> > > > > > online
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